Saturday, August 21, 2010

How can Christians and Atheists have mutually benefical relationships?

Our typical tendency is to desire for other people to become like us. If you are an atheist, you want people to be rational. If you are a Christian, you want people to be more faithful. The reality of the situation is that in this lifetime we will never see both groups agree. Hard Core Christians don't become atheists, and vice versa. So my question is how can two group who have completely opposing ideologies have mutually beneficial relationships? How can we build each other up as fellow human beings in a way that doesn't require the other group to change their beliefs? Is that even possible?How can Christians and Atheists have mutually benefical relationships?
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From a Christians perspective the best example i can think of is by looking at How Jesus interacted with people, (including people that were not of religious viewpoint)





He would hang out with these people simply because he loved all people, many times he would have dinner with those considered to be unbelievers. this would often shock the religious priests etc.





Jesus' main intention was simply to love people, yes there were times that he needed to be alone and pray etc, but he would relate with people on what ever level they were at.





There is a difference between having a religious disagreement, and simply challenging one another with your different world views, i respect my atheist friends so much more if i know they are willing to discuss the challenging yet exciting subjects of existence.





We must simply build upon the familiarities we have with each other, yes there will be cut off points where there is simply not comprehension between the two parties as both are on diametrically opposed world views, only one can ultimately be corect about their origin. Yet we can still be friends. Yet, Im not sure being a really deep friend with the other party can be possible, as that 'spiritual' like connection should resonate and harmonize from the core of who we think we are... The result of monkeys, from slime, or an all intelligent creator.





Either way true friends are ones that except each others short comings and or difference and find love and respect for each other just the sameHow can Christians and Atheists have mutually benefical relationships?
Don't shove your beliefs down each other's throats.
Your question implies that atheistic and Christian views are central to our day-to-day living when in fact they occupy only a tiny bit of it. Our working and family relationships consist almost entirely of secular subjects. I've worked at my company for 17 years and don't even know the religion of my coworkers.
First demonstrate to me one way that faith based thinking is better at solving problems and helping humans progress than logical thinking. All religion does is help people cope with things they'd rather not approach rationally.





If you can do this, most atheists wouldn't have a problem with theists. I don't think what you suggest is possible. Asking atheists to dumb ourselves down to ';get along'; is like asking us to start flinging our feces at each other when we get angry. Sorry, but we've evolved beyond both crap flinging, and fantasy thinking.
Actually I am a hardcore Christian turned atheist.








I could have gotten laid sooo many more times if I hadn't been.
Yes, it is possible; in fact, I have many Christian friends here, and I am an Atheist.





What we agree upon is that we share a common humanity and common ideals; we share a desire for peace for all and an end to suffering. Though we may have a few things we disagree on, we have far more that we do agree on.





We have more uniting us than we have dividing us.
By not talking about religion.





To agree to think and make decisions based on a humanistic standpoint.





By neither claiming to know the absolute truth of anything.
It certainly is possible, but only if you can accept that other people can have a viewpoint different from your own and not be ';wrong';. If a Christian can accept that certain people don't acknowledge a world beyond their physical senses, and an atheist can accept that some folks experience a world beyond the rational, then they can have a healthy relationship. Besides, what kind of relationship are you talking about? Perhaps they would never have a reason to discuss religion at all.
Hey there--I'm married to a rabid atheist and I'm a rabid christian.





My answer?





Sex.








It is really mutually beneficial in a marriage.


; )


lol
I have a problem with Christians who go around preaching fire and brimstone and trying to convert people to Christianity through fear of God and Atheists who try and shove their viewpoints down our throats and judging us because we're Christians.





Yes we are supposed to help save people but I don't think that means through fear and intimidation I think it means we are to lead them to God through following the example we set as Christians.


If the lost see us living righteously and notice what a difference it makes in our life that might spark some interest in them and maybe they'll want to know more about our beliefs and through explaining Gods love mercy and Grace we can save them.


And I think if we did that with Atheists we could get along with them


We should leave them alone and let them be and if they have any questions concerning Christianity then we can share Gods word with them but I don't believe in saying anything to them until they ask.


That also goes for Atheists, they just love to spout off about how there's no God and Christians are stupid or the bible is hate speech and all the other awful things they like to say to disgrace themselves.


If they would only stop and mind their own business along with Christians we could get along and find mutual ground to stand on.


But for some reason neither can seem to do that.





Even though I'm a Christian I am against practicing a religion of any kind and believe in loving God and having a direct personal relationship with Him through the Holy Spirit given to us because of Jesus sacrifice.


And I think it's because I don't practice a religion that I don't go around bothering anyone as long as they don't bother me.





I just wish others could do the same.





I agree with Don S. that Christians and Atheists cannot be friends.


We can get along with them in the work place or anywhere else in public but I would never befriend one of them because we are on opposite sides of the fence and it just isn't in our nature to accept someone who rejects our Father in Heaven.


God gave everyone a measure of faith so they can decide if they want to follow him down the right path or reject Him and go the way of the world.


Why would I want to be friends with someone who loves the world when I myself hate it and love God instead?


It just wouldn't work.
The first and foremost thing in my opinion is to respect each others views and beliefs. I have discussions with atheists without any problems. I've never tried to get any of the atheists I know in my real life and on here to change their views. So I guess as long as there is mutual respect, anything is possible.
Many ways.


- Don't discuss religion.


- Be religious tolerant.


- No preaching about how others are wrong.
A Christian would not have a friend who is an Atheist.They are to love them yes, yes,yes.But in no way are we to be friends with those who are ungodly.Many times we think that we are doing the ungodly a favor by being their friend, but scripture tells us differently.


2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, (that he may be ashamed.)


Pats on the back ofyen give them a false peace.





John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.


John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?


John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.


John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you


John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:


John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.


John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.


John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.


1Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


1Cr 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.








1Cr 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:


1Cr 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.


1Cr 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


1Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


1Cr 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.





1Cr 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.


Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


2Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.


1John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.


1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.


1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


1John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.








ATHEIST


2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


2John 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.


2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.


2John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:


2John 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.





Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.


1Peter 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
I was once a hardcore Christian and I am now a staunch atheist... people can change if they take an honest look at what's going on.





Almost all of my friends are pretty religious too, and though we completely disagree on everything religious, we have a lot of fun together. We even enjoy some good-natured debates from time to time.





That said, I don't think I could ever have a serious romantic relationship with a Christian. I would not be willing to marry a woman that expected me to attend church weekly, say prayers, and raise our children to believe in god.
i wish it were possible if it was then we would have a better america
It's not possible. The bible says, ';how can two walk together unless they agree?';
The real question is: who ************* gives a ****?

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